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magnara



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:26 am Reply with quoteBack to top

While I'm waiting for the StuporBowl to get into the 2nd half before I start watching it on DVR, let me speak out on the importance of adding previews with vid uploads. I consider it more than just a courtesy, it is a great time saver for everyone who downloads, and that is just about everybody.

- Ever download a vid named Dialeia and end up with diarrhea because the name was misspelled?
- Ever download a vid that was similar in size to what you already have and is an exact copy except the file has been converted from .wmv to .avi and is slightly larger or smaller?
- Ever download a file for a model whose name you didn't recognize and discover that she is so ugly that even her mother wouldn't love her?
- Ever download a blind link from a file server like Uploaded, trash it and then be told you have to wait 3 hours to download another file?
- Ever see someone start a new thread for a popular model with a blind link and you have great vids that you'd like to add, but you hesitate, because you don't want to add a duplicate?
- Ever try to download multiple blind files even from a user-friendly site like MediaFire,? You have to answer capchas and then turn around and trash the vids because you have them already? Most every other filehosts will not allow parallel downloads.
- How many forums can you name that don't require some sort of preview?
- Previews can solve many of the problems above. You don't need special software to make previews. Media Player Classic works very well and previews can easily be made, uploaded to an imagehost and posted in a thread while you're still waiting for the vid itself to upload.
- If everyone provided a preview with their video uploads, users could make informed decisions on whether to download and with the time saved, might do more capping and hopefully more uploading.
- I would like to ask the admin to consider making previews a requirement and welcome opposing views.
Time for the game - Go Ravens!

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podrob



Joined: 06 Dec 2012
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:27 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I would have to disagree with you because of a few points:

1. We on the forum have a common interest, naked chicks (not to put so fine a point on the subject matter).
2. When I post, I am taking time out of MY day to post that I didn't see here already.
3. Maybe they think thumbnails are a waste of time and now you are going to try and force a member to waste their time so you can feel as though your time was well spent .... on a forum .... about naked webcam girls .... with the rest of us tossers. Seriously?

If you make the thumbnails a requirement, all you'll do is make those who are either lazy or don't know enough even less likely to post something simply because they too, don't want to be bothered.

Maybe this sounds lazy, but then again, this is the real world full of real people that by and large are affected in these sorts of ways.

If you like the girl I posted something for without a preview, really, is downloading it really that gutwretching and stressful? I mean, start the download and do something else while it downloads. Watch TV, wank, look outside and see the sunshine (*gasps*).

The point is, if you don't want to be bothered with videos that don't have thumbnails, then don't download them, its simple really, requiring thumbnails will certainly have a toll and I don't think it'll be a good toll.

I just don't see what all the hoopla is all about complaining about "wasting my time", let's face it, YOU are already WASTING your time hanging around on a forum and wanking to video girls instead of out fucking the real ones.

Rob

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When I said YOU in the previous paragraph, I didn't mean you as in magnara, I meant, you as in whomever is reading this.
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gq_ii



Joined: 16 Nov 2012
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:14 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Podrob- I can't agree more with every word that you said.

I actually refused to post at phun because of their requirements and the reason why i like it on these places is the LACK OF RULES. Let everyone do what they want, no restrictions. Thats the whole fun of this place!

If you don't know who a girl is *gasp* don't download the file or go look her up if you don't want a crappy file. Personally.....i'm only looking for a few girls and thats it, so if its not a girl I already know, i'm not downloading it anyways. It takes all of 3 minutes to download most mediafile files so......really, who cares?

It does take a lot of time to record these files, and then way longer to upload them, and some people edit them on top of that.....and for what? To give others the same material we worked hard to record. So, either take the free material, and say thank you- or record your own. or don't. It's kinda like people who don't like certain subjects or things on tv. If you don't like it- don't watch.

And obviously this isn't anything against Magnara because you have the right to speak up being a large poster- but realize that a lot of less frequent posters are just going to post whatever they can get to, and what killed phun was all the rules. People just eventually stop posting.

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lizard



Joined: 21 Nov 2012
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

It is, to my mind, just the respectful and considerate thing to do. "Rules" be damned, it's not about forcing people to do this or do that. It's taking 30 seconds simply to be courteous. (Yes, really. 30 seconds. So many mediaplayers these days come ready-made with options to generate thumbs. You can bang 'em out and upload them in no time at all. The "it's a hassle" factor here is being greatly exaggerated, gentlemen.)

And for those who shun previews, I really think text descriptions, then, are the way to go. Some basic information so those you're uploading for have something beyond the hosted filesize by which to judge. I will always offer thumbnails and, at the very least, mention whether a clip has sound or not, 'cause I know many here aren't interested in mute shows.

The "If you don't recognize a girl, look her up" argument doesn't quite fly. Avatars often don't much look like the model, in my experience; nor do they all have chat captures available for reference. There are also the misspellings, as mentioned above. Sometimes I simply can't tell who's who.

To take a recent example - I posted Carrie the other day. Except, look at that topic. No pictures 'til mine, and the only other link therein went to a model named Azayla, instead. Quite confused as to whether or not I was even in the right topic, though it was the right name, 'cause I had no frame of reference. A preview pic in the post above mine would've solved all issues. (N.B. - FlamedLiquid, please know I'm not taking the piss out of you here. You're a very respected and active poster, it was only your topic by chance.)

Another consideration: It is certainly no fault of the uploader if a particular model effectively just puts on the same show every time she's on. Graice would be a good example. Dunno about everyone else, but that gets boring to me. I find myself looking for the one-in-a-hundred show when she's doing something different than usual. More explicit or even less, whatever, just shaking up the routine for once.

Problem comes in, though, when said uploader dumps a multitude of videos with no thumbs or text blurbs. Sure, MediaFire is generally pretty fast - for one file. But you add up the time spent downloading 8-10, some of 'em pretty large in size, all to comb through for that one special clip which may not even be there, and I've spent a great deal more time sorting through your caps than it would've taken you to toss in a few thumbs or words.

No one's being ingracious here. We all cap, we all edit, we all upload - we all know the time invested therein. And we are not thankless for all the work that every other member here puts in for what is really just a shared hobby.

tl;dr: Previews are just a matter of courtesy to me. Something I add so everyone else can browse my rubbish a bit more easily.

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FlamedLiquid



Joined: 19 Nov 2012
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top

lizard wrote:
It is, to my mind, just the respectful and considerate thing to do. "Rules" be damned, it's not about forcing people to do this or do that. It's taking 30 seconds simply to be courteous. (Yes, really. 30 seconds. So many mediaplayers these days come ready-made with options to generate thumbs. You can bang 'em out and upload them in no time at all. The "it's a hassle" factor here is being greatly exaggerated, gentlemen.)

And for those who shun previews, I really think text descriptions, then, are the way to go. Some basic information so those you're uploading for have something beyond the hosted filesize by which to judge. I will always offer thumbnails and, at the very least, mention whether a clip has sound or not, 'cause I know many here aren't interested in mute shows.

The "If you don't recognize a girl, look her up" argument doesn't quite fly. Avatars often don't much look like the model, in my experience; nor do they all have chat captures available for reference. There are also the misspellings, as mentioned above. Sometimes I simply can't tell who's who.

To take a recent example - I posted Carrie the other day. Except, look at that topic. No pictures 'til mine, and the only other link therein went to a model named Azayla, instead. Quite confused as to whether or not I was even in the right topic, though it was the right name, 'cause I had no frame of reference. A preview pic in the post above mine would've solved all issues. (N.B. - FlamedLiquid, please know I'm not taking the piss out of you here. You're a very respected and active poster, it was only your topic by chance.)

Another consideration: It is certainly no fault of the uploader if a particular model effectively just puts on the same show every time she's on. Graice would be a good example. Dunno about everyone else, but that gets boring to me. I find myself looking for the one-in-a-hundred show when she's doing something different than usual. More explicit or even less, whatever, just shaking up the routine for once.

Problem comes in, though, when said uploader dumps a multitude of videos with no thumbs or text blurbs. Sure, MediaFire is generally pretty fast - for one file. But you add up the time spent downloading 8-10, some of 'em pretty large in size, all to comb through for that one special clip which may not even be there, and I've spent a great deal more time sorting through your caps than it would've taken you to toss in a few thumbs or words.

No one's being ingracious here. We all cap, we all edit, we all upload - we all know the time invested therein. And we are not thankless for all the work that every other member here puts in for what is really just a shared hobby.

tl;dr: Previews are just a matter of courtesy to me. Something I add so everyone else can browse my rubbish a bit more easily.


did I post an Azayla vid in the Carrie topic? if so, my bad..I had no idea. I know Ive posted a few vids without thumbnails..and I do mean few. These are flv files and the program I use VideoThumbnailMaker doesnt convert flv files. If someone knows of a program that does let me know and I'd be more then happy to use it. I too like preview pics so I try to provide them whenever I can. I understand if people do not want to, but I'm more on lizard and magnara's side on this one. I hate downloading vids and realizing I already had it downloaded.

so I appologize if any of my thumbnail less vids piss you off. lol. I just wanted to post some stuff I myself enjoyed that I hope others did as well, ex. Catelyn.

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gq_ii



Joined: 16 Nov 2012
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:01 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The date and a decent description is definitely a fair request that anyone can definitely agree to.

And guys. The programs I use don't generate previews, just for devils' advocate sake. So i'm sure i'm not the only one in that situation. I'm technologically retarded.

I'll probably stick more to sharing only my new files in response to a specific request for a girl.

I...again....don't download random videos. If i don't know the girl and like her already, i have no reason to want to download it, but i know everyone is different as is their motivations.

I download girls i like no matter what the show is so the preview is unnecessary as long as i know when the video was taken

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FlamedLiquid



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:36 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yep, also technology retarded. I can't get a windows player that has this screen cap capability, and yes I downloaded the latest one I could find.

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podrob



Joined: 06 Dec 2012
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

gq_ii wrote:
The date and a decent description is definitely a fair request that anyone can definitely agree to.

And guys. The programs I use don't generate previews, just for devils' advocate sake. So i'm sure i'm not the only one in that situation. I'm technologically retarded.

I'll probably stick more to sharing only my new files in response to a specific request for a girl.

I...again....don't download random videos. If i don't know the girl and like her already, i have no reason to want to download it, but i know everyone is different as is their motivations.

I download girls i like no matter what the show is so the preview is unnecessary as long as i know when the video was taken


Exactly! With the advent of cable modems and broadband at home, it's not really an issue to run downloads in the background.

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