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lizard



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

gq_ii wrote:
Yep. I only post my favorite girls cause thats all i cap and my favorite girls are nowhere to be seen lately so my posting days are stopped until there is someone worth paying for who will actually take her clothes off and that's pretty rare.


Here I go, ruffling a lot of feathers..

First, this isn't aimed just at you, gq_ii. Been bugging me a long time and I'm just quoting your post to bring the relevant issue to a head.

But may I say, that's a remarkably crap attitude to have.

When SF made their Exclusive changes, I saw a number of names pop up to discuss it who hadn't been around in months; some who never had been before. And upon learning it was permanent and downloadable Exclusive streams were gone, just as quickly back into the woodwork they went. Poof. It's bothered me ever since. I've waited a month to see if this community got better, but if anything it's only declined.

Guys. Out of all the people who visit this board, we've got barely five active contributers. We can't blame SF for that entirely, though they took a large chunk out of our options. But a lot of you stopped doing anything useful way before then. Now, we've all got jobs, familial obligations - life gets in the way. Totally understandable. But there are far too many here who aren't even trying, these days. Something's gotta change or this place really will go the way of Phun.

And speaking frankly I think it's time those of you who stopped posting months ago, or never have at all, start taking an active part. Remember that this is a group effort. If you're just gonna look out for yourself, why should we be here at all? We don't need a community for that.

So I say this: If your archives are exhausted, if there's nothing more waiting in the wings -- try to fulfill one of the many pending requests, or just try someone new. If not for yourself, then cap for others here. Why not? We've all gotten something out of this board over the months. There can be no talk of favors. SF may be out of it (mostly, anyways), but there are a great deal of other camsites - hundreds, if not thousands, of women online at any given time. Surely out of all those options, you all can find just one woman who isn't repulsive to you.

If you're just gonna be here watching, there's Phun for that. Do we really want this forum becoming like them?

In closing, I want to thank magnara, joshdan, FlamedLiquid and t'others for keeping this board alive. And I know some of you have been working on editing your backlogs in preparation for an update. I look forward to it. May all we others take a lesson from them and start breathing life into this place again. This is no spectator sport.

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carpetmouse



Joined: 25 Nov 2012
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

its been a month already!!!???

wow, I really am starting to move on...heres my thoughts and feelings about the latest sf update...im patiently waiting for a fix...if none comes i can live with that...u guys will appreciate when i start really posting because there will be enough new material to post til the end of the year and likely longer...but im still planning on posting some...once i finish my editing though, if sf still has no fix...then I will likely be hanging it up...there are other sites out there i agree...but for the last six years sf has ran almost nonstop on my pc...and I have no interest in starting to cap another site
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lizard



Joined: 21 Nov 2012
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Right. Well. Things only continue to decline around here. Of late, not only are most of you sitting on your asses idling, but it seems we have a few rats about killing links.

So - To our admin, Kellenocte, I'd like to formally request a couple policy changes for your consideration.

(1) Clean up the memberlist. Any account that's been here longer than a month and never posted, gone. Institute a policy that all new accounts must contribute to the Pictures or Videos section within their first month, or they too are deleted. Clean this forum up of knights and leeches.

(2) Similarly, restrict the Pictures and Videos boards to those who are currently active in them. Just as guests can't see this board's forums, restrict normal members from seeing the goods. Have a sandbox thread as a proving grounds of sorts, for people to post files in before they're confirmed as active contributors.

And I say "currently" because, honestly, past rep means nothing. So you used to post dozens of videos a year ago. Fantastic! I'm grateful to you, truly I am, but it does nothing to help us now. And now is the important bit. Too many people around here have been offering nothing but excuses for months on end. If they just want to chat, cool, fine. Leave General open, but create a second member group able of viewing and posting in Pictures and Videos, and "upgrade" users who actually do something for this community.

(3) Institute a mandatory monthly quota, with all accounts failing to reach it being downgraded (assuming policy 2), or banned. Nothing difficult: only two or three contributions a month, such as even the busiest -- or laziest -- can reach with ease. We've all got lives outside of this forum, that's understandable. So no huge numbers, just something to make clear that idling shouldn't be acceptable. That's not why we're here.

Why? It's become clear to me that a disturbingly large section of this board's membership is just waiting for the golden goose to come back. Lurking in the background, hoping that this board will discover a way to leech their precious lost exclusives. And frankly I see zero reason why those who do not wish to help this community should benefit from it. It's disrespectful. So I ask our admin to restrict access from prying eyes. Let those few who care about this board be the ones to enjoy the spoils. Everyone else can step up and do their part, or go back to Phun.

Stop bemoaning the changes at SF. Free exclusives are gone, get over it, move on. There are plenty of other sites out there. And your favorite girl quit? Boo bloody hoo. Thousands of others to choose from. Look around. No more idling, no more excuses. I'm tired of seeing the same exact three names in the Videos section every week. If you're going to be here - be useful.

This board is dying, fast, and idlers are just as much to blame as the knights. Something's gotta change.

Those are my thoughts. I'd appreciate input from our admin and from his staff. I understand "no rules" has always been our mantra -- but in truth, look what's resulted from it. Some amount of structure can certainly be helpful. Keeps things alive, keeps them running smooth. Do we want this place around in a month or not?

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gq_ii



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Lol- We all do this for fun and if they were to institute those changes, someone would have to waste a TON of their time (that they could be capping and sharing) trying to enforce them.

Simple is best- we like simple.

Noone should be required to post so many videos a month to stay active, that's ridiculous. We all have lives, some of us have money issues, and now with exclusive being blacked out most of the posters really aren't going to have anything new to contribute because they don't have money to pay for exclusives. Past reputation and posts HAVE to mean something, because once we share everything we have.......what else are we supposed to do? Sure we could just post 3 things a month forever, but for people like me who posted 100 videos in a short time, am i going to be punished for that? Ridiculous. Watch who you want to watch, pay for who you want to pay, but hey....if you have something, share it. Simple, considerate, and to the point.

I Only watch SF and a few other sites for VERY specific girls, mostly old SF girls, and that's all I ever will watch. Anyways, that's my feelings on it.

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lizard



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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

lizard wrote:
Those are my thoughts. I'd appreciate input from our admin and from his staff. I understand "no rules" has always been our mantra -- but in truth, look what's resulted from it. Some amount of structure can certainly be helpful. Keeps things alive, keeps them running smooth. Do we want this place around in a month or not?


Emphasis you seem to have missed. Respectfully, I'm more interested in strictly official replies from the people in charge. With two whole posts in all of 2013, I'm sorry sir but you're exactly one of the idlers that is killing this board. Part of the problem. I do thank you that those contributions are at least recent. It helps. But in the interest of the long-term, in the interest of keeping this board alive, it just won't do to pop in once every six months. And all you've done in response is to offer the same tired old excuses I countered above already.

To finances, I know. I don't pay for porn either. I enjoyed SF's holes as much as we all did. But that's done now, and there's no use living in the past, so I look elsewhere. Why cannot you? "I don't want to" is hardly good enough for a community. Great for yourself, but logically then you don't need this forum for that anymore. We must look beyond our own interests. Plenty of other sites exist with plenty of other women offering plenty of other free shows. There's no excuse to be self-interested.

"Waste time capping and sharing"? You must be joking. We've got maybe two new posts a week these days, if that. Where is all this capping and sharing you claim my suggestions would infringe upon? Don't be absurd. No one's doing a thing around here, and it shows. My only aim is to encourage activity. Someone doesn't want to be part of that, that's their call. Trimming the fat doesn't bother me in the least.

As I keep saying -- this is a community effort. We depend upon supporting one another. Anyone who is only interested in themselves has no place being part of it here.

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FlamedLiquid



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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 2:28 am Reply with quoteBack to top

gq_ii wrote:
Lol- We all do this for fun and if they were to institute those changes, someone would have to waste a TON of their time (that they could be capping and sharing) trying to enforce them.

Simple is best- we like simple.

Noone should be required to post so many videos a month to stay active, that's ridiculous. We all have lives, some of us have money issues, and now with exclusive being blacked out most of the posters really aren't going to have anything new to contribute because they don't have money to pay for exclusives. Past reputation and posts HAVE to mean something, because once we share everything we have.......what else are we supposed to do? Sure we could just post 3 things a month forever, but for people like me who posted 100 videos in a short time, am i going to be punished for that? Ridiculous. Watch who you want to watch, pay for who you want to pay, but hey....if you have something, share it. Simple, considerate, and to the point.

I Only watch SF and a few other sites for VERY specific girls, mostly old SF girls, and that's all I ever will watch. Anyways, that's my feelings on it.


bingo.

the only thing I can say really is people that havent posted a single vid on this site since joining. I'm sure there are a lot of those here. But if people that have posted a ton of videos before and arent really posting now..I dont think they should be punished. Yah, it was easier to get caps when we could hack exclusive. Some girls still show in public...thank god...but not many. All sites tend to die, especially ones that arent open to the public. But we should definitely not do that. It sucks yes. And while I will say I may post some more when I can.......yah..Im lazy. But I do have a lot i can post. Lot of mfc stuff mostly. but a lot of the mfc videos Ive posted already I dont think anyone really cares for. But I dont just cap the top 10 models.

but of the amount of members here theres probbaly only like 10 that have posted videos or pictures, so I will agree that the others should try to post something. Of course then again they may only have stuff capped that others have already posted. So..............I dunno.

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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 4:28 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Lizard- this specific room is to air differences and resolve them- not for a "response" from people in charge.

I really don't care what you think, as I have no excuses to offer. This is a community which is dying because exclusive is gone for us people who aren't rich and have lives. I really don't have any interest in seeing caps of girls who show in regular mode, cause they are usually gross or are on another site anyways. Just my opinion. I don't waste HD space recording shit I don't have interest in unless one of my buddies here sends me a PM and asks me too. I use a cheap laptop- I'm not a techie.

I have always believed that we pay for the girls we want to see, we cap them, and then we share them. That is ALL we owe to eachother in this forum. Anyone who wants to do more, that's awesome! Period.

Otherwise you can either work on solving the problem which seems to have a potential solution now (cracking exclusive) or go start your own forum so you can be like Fanny Boy whose site also died because of rules he started putting on the forum members. Just ask Kellinocte, he hated him as much as I did.

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gq_ii



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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 4:34 am Reply with quoteBack to top

FL- You are exactly right. Shit, a few shows that I actually paid for a few months ago ended up on here posted from someone else before i had a chance to upload it. It happened 3 times actually. I actually spend money on some of these girls and report what I learn, which is sometimes just as valuable. I try to save people money in addition to just posting crap.

Anything that comes out in public, MOST people are going to have anyways, so unless there is a request or someone has it in their signature that they want it........why record or post it? Its dumb again...in my opinion.

This is supposed to be fun, not stressful, and not an obligation.

I only ask this- if you pay for or have mastered hacking into exclusive and you get something good, share it. That's all. That's what I do and I expect no more in return.

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